STOP with oil symbol then Check Injection with car no power.

[AlexB]

j4m3s,

I hate to say this, but the listed jobs have nothing to do with the symptoms your car is showing. Expect a much greater bill on top of this one.

Furthermore, Reg Vardy by multiple reviews is known as an unbelievably incompetent business. If the car was in their hands expect neglect and multiple faults.

Just put 2 and 2 together: 1.9dci, 03 reg (the period when ECU types were changed several times for an unknown reason), overly extended oil drain interval, increased oil consumption, Castrol (possibly GTX mineral), oil starvation, unknown engine management fault, unknown electrical fault, Reg Vardy... The brakes and plugs should be the least of your worries.

If you want any advice then please give us the detailed history of the car, service history (as in the printout from the dealer) and describe in detail the circumstances of the failure. Which exactly lights, texts and sounds were observed? What codes were read from the ECU in the initial examination?

My advice is to not authorise any jobs until the situation becomes clear. This is a typical scam of the traders -- to demand authorisation of the jobs whose meaning is unclear to the customer. If the customer is not an expert in the field, then the autorisation request should sound as "I'll make your car roadworthy for xxx pounds".

[j4m3s]

Apparently the fault was the glow plugs....
The rest of the work was found under my 54000 service.
I have already paid for the work to be done as i needed my car (well all except the ball joint which i plan on going somewhere else)
The ball joint is not £300 on its own, they say the tracking rod is usually done at the same time which equals £300 inc labour....
I will post the service things once i get back from work...thanks!

[onlydiesels]

IMHO it`s not worth buying/fitting a ball joint on it`s own,as the bushes will have done the same milage as the joint,so fitting a complete new arm renews the lot and the easiest way to renew the joint would be to remove the arm anyway,so if your paying for labour it`s quicker to just renew the complete arm. same place should be able to do tracking too.
only my view

[AlexB]

Hm... I am getting paranoid, apparently...

Still, I don't understand how 2 failed glow plugs could have caused cutting off when driving downhill with warm engine. Rough running of the cold engine -- yes, but when the engine is hot, they are not used at all -- read the Renault document in the second pointer in my message in the Links section. It is also unclear what caused battery discharge soon after the fault.

I am suspecting that either the fault or a potential for the fault is still there. It can be something as simple as water ingress, which stopped when the car was taken to the dealers or something else.

[nickbell69]

I just have a thing about people getting ripped off at garages and the more i read that repair bill the worse i get

[j4m3s]

I just have a thing about people getting ripped off at garages and the more i read that repair bill the worse i get

Mate tell me about it....

Ok, i have had the car back less than a week and guess what....'Check Injection'.
Can you bloody believe it!?!?!
The cars drives fine and starts ok. Ive noticed that once the car is warm the check injection goes out (after a stop/start).
Ive had this before (last winter)and it was the glow plug they changed to cure it!!
I phoned renault/reg vardy where i got my prob fixed last week and they said to bring it in and they will diagnose it for me. Obviously if the glow plug that is faulty is a one theyve changed there will be no fee, unfortunately if the one that is at fault is one of the others i will be charged £65 diagnostic fee as well as the part(s).
This really boils my p*ss.
Is there way of finding out which one is at fault without going to a renault garage?
Im going to buy 2 glow plugs tomorrow and try to change myself so any hints would be welcomed!
If i find out its theres then i will take my car in and get them to fix it and just put the 2 new ones i buy into the older plugs cause i know if one goes then there all suspectable to go? Or is that a myth?
Really annoyed now going to phone citizens advice and trading standards tomorrow to see if i can progress anything with them.

[AlexB]

Yes, it's a myth. The other glow plugs don't go immediately. They may live upto 20% longer...

Furthermore, you paid about £50 only to find out which of them failed. IMHO, it makes more sense to change them all at the Internet price of £28 for all four. I buy glow plugs from GSF, code R18822, make Beru, part No 0100226373.

To install you'll need a long 10mm socket, 1/4 inch extension bar and some anti-seize (copper or MoS2) grease. All details, pictures and torques can be found in the repair manual pointed at in my message in the Links section (2nd pointer).

[j4m3s]

Hi Alex, Thanks for the reply.
The R code is wrong i think.
It only gives the following:
BBGN991 GLOW PLUG MEGANE 1.9D (F8Q-620)
BBGN999 GLOW PLUG MEGANE 1.9 DTI
BBGN959 GLOW PLUG MEGANE 1.9 TURBO DIESEL
I think the last one is the one i want. Can you help?
And i donloaded the links but unfortunately i couldnt understand them. My french aint that good!!!
Might give them to my 5 year old to translate

[nickbell69]

Changed mine quite easily, just like spark plugs if you've done that before. Mine were about£30 for all 4 from a local motor factors. Halfrauds will be dearer but still a lot cheaper than paying for diagnostic on car. Surprised garage didn't change all 4 while they had car.

[j4m3s]

Surprised garage didn't change all 4 while they had car.

Its Renault your talking about!! They will want the return custom!!
Ive had a look inside engine...what do the glow plugs look like? Are they the ones that have the black stems or the ones above it?

[cyclonebri1]

Surprised garage didn't change all 4 while they had car.

Its Renault your talking about!! They will want the return custom!!
Ive had a look inside engine...what do the glow plugs look like? Are they the ones that have the black stems or the ones above it?

Hi j4, Alex has tried to explain to you that the glowplugs are highly unlikely to cause any of your problrms as they are NOT USED when running at normal temps. Any problems would only be loads of smoke on cold start and a little extra cranking to get going.

Any decent garage knows this. To give an example wifes clio was exhibiting a little smoke for 10 secs or so on start up, no starting problems, no stalling, no lack of performance. All 4 glow plugs were failed ie open circuit. £32 for a set at the local factors and I thought that was expensive.

My best advise is to have the fault diagnosed by an indepent garage with the correct diagnostic kit, allmost all will have this. Use someone that comes recomended. Do not trust work like this to "Most any" of the largest dealerships, they'll have your kecks off in no time,

Edited to add that after re reading the original post I am amazed that the garage thought the glowplugs were causing the problem, again find a good independant or respected local garage.

[AlexB]

j4m3s,

I just downloaded the latest catalogue from GSF and checked the code. The code R18822 is still there and the model names are still confusing. At the moment I have a card box in my hand and it has both the R-code and the part number written on it. Inside the box is the old glow plug removed from my car. It has the same part number stamped on it. So, there is no mistake.

This is the web site of GSF:
https://www.gsfcarparts.com/

You wrote:
"The cars drives fine and starts ok. Ive noticed that once the car is warm the check injection goes out (after a stop/start)."
It is a typical symptom of a failed glow plug.

I also suggest to check the installed glow plugs as it may turn out that more than two need to be ordered.

[j4m3s]

Well, i wasnt brave enough to do the glow plugs myself. After phoning 3 garages who couldnt do it and one that would for £80 i took it back to renault and they have done it for £80. After paying she politely told me that since i had all 4 done by them they ould be covered for a year under the parts warranty.

Lets see how it goes eh?!?!?

[nickbell69]

£80 now thats not bad for Renault. In fact its an hours labour they must have supplied the plugs free of charge, how generous and kind hearted of them

[kylehimself]

j4m3s mate, im sad just readin' about the problems you've had. normally i wouldn't.... but may i suggest choppin' the megane in for a nice reliable jap car i.e. toyota or honda. seems like this renault is breakin' you heart lol. how renault treat there customers really f**ks me off!

sorry i could be of no technical help, but i think if you can aford it. change it!

kyle