Renault Megane cc "roof mechanism fault" message

[pxtreme]

Hi All, i need some help!!!!!

i have a 54 plate 2.0l privilidge

When i am driving along, the roof mechanism fault warning displays, the service light comes on and starts beeping at me!

when i stop the message goes off and the service light goes out. I will then drive away and the same thing will happen again!! Its driving me mad


The roof comes up and goes down without any problems.

Anyone got any idea what the prob is, otherwise its off the renault.

Paul

[ChrisM]

Read this a couple of times on here, but nobody has put a resolve up.

If you have to take it to Renault or get it repaired some where, please put up what was wrong and if possible how it was fixed so the next person with this issue has an idea where to start looking.

If some of the others with this kind of problem had done this we could have pointed you in the right direction, don't keep it a secret, knowledge is power to us.... the owners of these cars!

Whilst we all stay tight lipped because we have had to fork out cash (a lot of usually) we don't want to tell others but if we do then quite a network of self repairs can build up which in turn takes work away from the over priced dealers, just a quick example there is a chap on here with a rear window problem reg has broken renault are paying 75% he still has to find £185 or close to that? there are guides on here to change your own rear reg, I have done two myself from scrap yards at £55 & £75 each and put up one of the guides, these cars do not have to be massivly expensive bank account brakers if we all talk about the "fixes".
It is all fine and well talking about where we have been at weekends and who does the cheapest wind break, but lets start building up a technical section on common faults and not so common ones some of us have older models which don't have the luxury of Renault after care, like me, they wont look twice at my car with its age and millage everything will be full price which I don't want to pay to be truthful and I am sure I am not the only one on here that does not want to be bankrupted by this car.
So come on to all of you....... LIST YOUR FIXES lets make a technical section we can all look in!

[pxtreme]

Right update time

i looked at his logically and decided that it has to be the sensor that monitors the position of the roof when it is folded down in the boot.

The fault message first started after i drove over a pothole in the road so i think this has either caused the roof to "jump", tripping the sensor or it has caused the sensor to jump causing the message to appear.

i reckon the reason why this fault is common at the moment is basically down to the terrible state of the roads due to the bad weather in winter and the fact there are some bloody big potholes everywhere

i tested my theory by driving over some massive speed bumps by my house and lo and behold it caused the warning message to flash up.

i found that by parking up overnight and then drivng for a short while with roof up, and then putting it down stopped warning message from appearing. I assume that this must have reset the sensor.

Any views?

[ChrisM]

excellant well done and thanks for the update, I wonder which and where this sensor is?

[pxtreme]

Disaster!!!

The roof has now stopped working. Car booked in with Renault on monday, bank account now trembling!!

I will post the result on tuesday together with the cost.

It seems the warning message is a pre cursor to more serious probs. Ahh well at least the repair work from Renault will be guarenteed.

[ChrisM]

Oh No! perhaps it is still the sensor, which has possibly "blown" which is why it was intermittent, either a plug loose or the switch itself dieing, hopefully wont be to expensive usually it seems to be labour charges that are the killer.
Good luck.
The impresion I get with these cars is they are great when they are working but an absolute nightmare when they are not, which seems to be par for the course on most modern cars but these seem to have more cheap electronincs in them along with with cheap quirky ideas which do not last with use, 2 good examples are the hands free locking buttons which don't work and the hand brake very quaint but so flimsy so it is just waiting to get stuck - ON!

[pxtreme]

For anyone interested i took the meggy to Renault today and had it checked.

The mechanics report is as follows:

"Carried out clip test on electric roof, several faults stored. clear fault memory check operation several times found working ok. check NSF roof switch & lubricate

carry out road test, message came up on dash roof mech and service light then went out. carry out clip test 5 permanent faults occuring when cornering right.

strip interior and check switches, connections and inspect wiring loom for chaffing. restest vehcile several times unable to reproduce fault again. rebuild and restest several times, all okay"

This may make sense to any mechanics out threre, if so please decipher for me (would love to know what a clip test is)

anyway upshot is the roof seems to be working fine.

The prob is definately electrical and not mechanical but requires the whole wiring/roof mechanism to be checked.

Total cost of work was £180. This is basically 2 hours of labour involved in checking all the wiring etc. (Not bad considering i charge that per hour in my job).

My advice is that if your car develops this fault get it to Renault asap or it may get worse.

Any views/comments?

[ChrisM]

I think a clip test is an ECU read - code read - ECU Diagnostic, seems to be a few terms for this knocking around, still £180 was not bad fro a roof fault really.
Trouble is there are no diagrams about for the rest of us to find these sensors, I have looked constantly on the web for anything and come up with the usuall, ZIP!
I wonder if it is a bit like VW, our tecs can only repair EOS roofs if they have been on the course, they are issued with a new logon for ElsaPro which enables them to access the EOS roof system, no course no code, it seems to be that simple so your standard VW tec can not repair the EOS roof as it will invalidate your warranty, wonder if Renault do the same.
My Friend has dialogys downloaded on his lap top when I put in my vin and build number it brings up my car apart from the fact it only dispalys what is relevent to the hatch model, we could find out how to remove the rear quater lite interior panels and shows nothing about the roof, so either there is another download for the CC like a bolt on or perhaps he has to use another code to log onto the fact it is a CC so it shows all parts of my car, either way you just don't seem to be able to find any info on them even haynes have stayed away from the CC or any fold top car by the looks of thier range.
Thanks for the update hopefully it will help others spot thier probelm and point a tec in the right direction or better still poke around our selves in there.