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Rear Disc Replacement...

Postby Nige » Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:10 pm

Obtained Discs and Pads all round. Does anyone have the Torque settings for putting the centre hub nut back on???

I believe it to be 175Nm??? Anyone got any light on this! :)

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Re: Rear Disc Replacement...

Postby Anthony » Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:34 pm

It's 280Nm and you're supposed to used a new nut. :cool:
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Re: Rear Disc Replacement...

Postby Paddy » Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:57 pm

As above a new nut is required.

As for the T reading... just lock it up tight!

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Re: Rear Disc Replacement...

Postby Anthony » Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:14 pm

That is poor advice. :no

Torque it correctly. :cool:
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Re: Rear Disc Replacement...

Postby davelowe » Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:18 pm

I think we've all torqued up bolts by nipping them once in a while!

However, I wouldn't feck around with brakes or the cylinder head for example.
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Re: Rear Disc Replacement...

Postby Nige » Sat Jan 30, 2010 4:37 pm

Got the front discs changed in utter ease today....these rears are just a nightmare.

A new nut seems like a good decision as they will probably not be off again in my lifetime of ownership, so i guess it makes good practise.

Might just take it to Renault and get them done.... :( I love to do things myself also and I am trying to keep costs down.
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Re: Rear Disc Replacement...

Postby AlexB » Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:08 pm

Nige,

Read the manual first:
https://www.uas-bg.com/meganii/eng/MR364MEGANE3.pdf

You will need the right tools for the job. The calliper support bolts and hub nuts are tight, so get a 40cm flexible handle and a 60+cm breaker bar and a torque wrench, all in 1/2'' square. All tools must be made of CR-V steel. Then, suddenly, any job will become quick and fun.

A quick calculation. Your right arm comfortably pulls about 40kg. The torque of the rear hubnut is 175Nm, which is 16kg*m. 16/40=0.4m -- this is the minimum length of the handle to torque the nut. For undoing it one needs to apply about 50% more, so the minimum length of the handle must be at least 60cm...

I guess you know that the pistons of the rear brakes are different from the front. You need to wind them in, i.e. rotate clockwise (on both sides of the car) while pushing in with a force of about 20kg. I use an open end combination spanner with a short bar put through the ring as a screwdriver. You will need to rotate the piston both ways before it starts going. Careful, use gloves and don't let the tool to slip off and damage the rubber seals.
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Re: Rear Disc Replacement...

Postby Anthony » Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:56 pm

Hmmmm :? Haynes says the torque setting is 280Nm. :conf
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Re: Rear Disc Replacement...

Postby davelowe » Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:31 pm

AlexB wrote:A quick calculation. Your right arm comfortably pulls about 40kg. The torque of the rear hubnut is 175Nm, which is 16kg*m. 16/40=0.4m -- this is the minimum length of the handle to torque the nut. For undoing it one needs to apply about 50% more, so the minimum length of the handle must be at least 60cm...


Brilliant lateral thinking - though I doubt my arm would pull 40kg.

Maths rules!

As for replacing it, what would you suggest - a torque wrench with a scaffold pole?
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Re: Rear Disc Replacement...

Postby Nige » Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:19 am

Thank's guys for all your help on this.....i have to admit this seems like an absolute nightmare lol.

I really want to tackle this myself, but as i am only an amateur mechanic with limited tools, this information has made it seem more clear that its not just a simple bolt on bolt off...

Thanks for all your input folks, great for me and other people on here!
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Re: Rear Disc Replacement...

Postby AlexB » Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:19 pm

It's on the front. The rear hub nut is 175Nm.

Anthony wrote:Hmmmm :? Haynes says the torque setting is 280Nm. :conf
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Re: Rear Disc Replacement...

Postby Anthony » Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:30 pm

:? Just checked again and it definately says rear hub nut - 280Nm. Might be a miss print if your definately sure. :conf
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Re: Rear Disc Replacement...

Postby AlexB » Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:31 pm

No, just a regular 1/2'' torque wrench. It is about 50cm in length and the max torque is 210 Nm (in mine at least). I bought it for £15 some time ago.

My calculation is for pulling the tool with one hand, so the other could be used to hold something. With both hands a man pulls his own weight, i.e. 75-100kg for most of us, which is more than enough.

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AlexB wrote:...As for replacing it, what would you suggest - a torque wrench with a scaffold pole?
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Re: Rear Disc Replacement...

Postby AlexB » Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:33 pm

See p.14 in the factory manual:
https://www.uas-bg.com/meganii/eng/MR364MEGANE3.pdf

Anthony wrote::? Just checked again and it definately says rear hub nut - 280Nm. Might be a miss print if your definately sure. :conf
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Re: Rear Disc Replacement...

Postby AlexB » Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:42 pm

You are right! Sorry for the abrupt reply.

The old manual (77 11 318 060 JUILLET 2002) lists 280Nm for both front and rear, and the new manual (77 11 318 062 MARCH 2003) lists 280Nm for the front and 175Nm for the rear hub nut.

The old manual is here:
https://www.reno.ro/index.php?s=06156a99 ... 1627461169


AlexB wrote:See p.14 in the factory manual:
https://www.uas-bg.com/meganii/eng/MR364MEGANE3.pdf

Anthony wrote::? Just checked again and it definately says rear hub nut - 280Nm. Might be a miss print if your definately sure. :conf
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