New window motor, regulator etc BUT problem.

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New window motor, regulator etc BUT problem.

Postby joeysheff » Fri May 03, 2013 10:47 am

Hello guys got alittle problem.

Yesterday on my way to work my window fell through the front passenger side door (5 door) and couldnt get it back up.
Took it into a garage near my work as I was desperate and the area is full of crime.

It turns out to be a whole New mechanism.
now my understanding, these new versions for the Megane II are a whole unit and not separate now.
so they fitted it at a cost of £200 which has felt me financially ruined! I hate this car!

Now the window wont go up fully with one press. It goes up and down 1 inch at a time. Iv tried the rest way (hold down for 10sec and up for 10sec) and still doesnt do it.
even worse is when you deadlock the car. All the Windows go up but the passenger window goes down by 1 inch instead.

What the hell do I do here.

I refuse to pay 1 more penny on the bloody window. The auto Electrician said he would need to charge his time finding out the problem as the wiring looks to be tampered with before this window fell through.

Any ideas guys, I need some help please. Im at the end with this car!

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Re: New window motor, regulator etc BUT problem.

Postby AlexB » Fri May 03, 2013 2:39 pm

Why would you want to calibrate the anti-pinch function to stop the window 1 inch below the closed position? You need to re-calibrate it now. cycle the power on the door in question by disconnecting and plugging back the door connector, then close the window 1 inch at a time, then hold the switch up to calibrate the closed position. Then put it down and calibrate the open position by keeping the switch down for a few seconds.

Usually it is sufficient to clean the connectors of the regulator and water proof it when it starts playing up. Garages replace the whole regulator, as it is more expensive.

Regulators fail in all cars. Search Google - Renault will not be on the top of the list...
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Re: New window motor, regulator etc BUT problem.

Postby joeysheff » Fri May 03, 2013 3:13 pm

AlexB wrote:Why would you want to calibrate the anti-pinch function to stop the window 1 inch below the closed position? You need to re-calibrate it now. cycle the power on the door in question by disconnecting and plugging back the door connector, then close the window 1 inch at a time, then hold the switch up to calibrate the closed position. Then put it down and calibrate the open position by keeping the switch down for a few seconds.

Usually it is sufficient to clean the connectors of the regulator and water proof it when it starts playing up. Garages replace the whole regulator, as it is more expensive.

Regulators fail in all cars. Search Google - Renault will not be on the top of the list...


Thankyou ever so much for your reply!
I forgot to say when I got my car back down was up and up was down. So I took it back to them and swapped the wiring round so up is up and down is down.

Il give it ago what you said when I get home.

So disconnect the plug which is on the doors up and down switch?
Sorry for the daft reply but you know when you press the lock button twice all the Windows go up BUT the passenger side drops by 1 inch instead of going up...
so as what you suggested, would I need to unplug the door handles switch and replug it in while the power is on.
then raise the window by how far it will go (1 inch at a time) and hold that switch there for a few seconds, then raise it again, hold the switch and so on...
then drop the window to the bottom and hold the switch there again afew seconds and should be resetted?

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Re: New window motor, regulator etc BUT problem.

Postby joeysheff » Fri May 03, 2013 3:41 pm

Right, iv just tried it.

Switch ignition on and disconnected the plug and reconnected it.
Lowered 1 inch at a time and held there afew seconds and did the same raising it up and holding afew seconds. But it still the same.

Goes up or down 1 inch at a time and still when you deadlock the car, all the Windows go up while the papassenger Side drops by 1 inch.
I have to get out of the habit now by only pressing lock once.
anyone else with any ideas?

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Re: New window motor, regulator etc BUT problem.

Postby AlexB » Fri May 03, 2013 3:45 pm

No, i mean the connector that connects the whole door to the body.

If the garage disconnected the battery... I guess they know that the steering column also needs recalibration by turning the steering left and right a quarter of a turn, then straight ahead. This is directly after connecting the battery.
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Re: New window motor, regulator etc BUT problem.

Postby AlexB » Fri May 03, 2013 3:50 pm

No, wait... Do not lower the window before the calibration.

After reconnecting the battery lift the window up first, if it is not there yet. Then hold the switch up for 5 seconds. The lowest point calibration is not important, and may not be implemented actually.


joeysheff wrote:...Switch ignition on and disconnected the plug and reconnected it.
Lowered 1 inch at a time and held there afew seconds and did the same raising it up and holding afew seconds. But it still the same...
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Re: New window motor, regulator etc BUT problem.

Postby AlexB » Fri May 03, 2013 3:54 pm

It bounces back by an inch because it can't reach the calibrated point for some reason. It thinks that it is hitting a child's hand or something... The same may happen if the mechanism or the glass is mechanically stuck. Make sure everything moves freely. There can be dirt, sticky stuff from trees, etc.
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Re: New window motor, regulator etc BUT problem.

Postby joeysheff » Fri May 03, 2013 9:37 pm

AlexB wrote:No, i mean the connector that connects the whole door to the body.

If the garage disconnected the battery... I guess they know that the steering column also needs recalibration by turning the steering left and right a quarter of a turn, then straight ahead. This is directly after connecting the battery.


Hello there again pal, I dont think they have disconnected the battery. I still have all my presets still stored and my bass, mids and highs still saved the same. Time and date still stored too.

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Re: New window motor, regulator etc BUT problem.

Postby joeysheff » Fri May 03, 2013 9:57 pm

AlexB wrote:It bounces back by an inch because it can't reach the calibrated point for some reason. It thinks that it is hitting a child's hand or something... The same may happen if the mechanism or the glass is mechanically stuck. Make sure everything moves freely. There can be dirt, sticky stuff from trees, etc.


I think there mite be a little misunderstanding...
the window winds all the way up 1 inch at a time. Same when it goes down. When you deadlock the car all the Windows go up. But the passenger Side has a reverse affect. It seems to go down instead of going up.

Its like it doesnt have a memory for that Side of the window.
so if I wind all the Windows up, they are fine. But the repaired side will drop by 1 inch when double pressing lock. The more times I press the lock button the more I can lower that one window...

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Re: New window motor, regulator etc BUT problem.

Postby taffyhl » Sat May 04, 2013 7:56 am

My front drivers was doing the same after I took the fuse out. All I had to do was push the up button a few times until it was fully up then held the up button for a few seconds. Did the same going down and it has been fine since.

By the way if you have a window fail again I recommended taking that windows fuse out. Took my failed Temic unit off yesterday and it was partially melted. There are other posts about doors catching fire so I feel lucky just to have lost the unit. Cheap replacement bought from EBay...


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