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Improved roadgrip

Postby Steel » Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:33 pm

I´m searching for ways to get a bit better handling.
Is there a Antirollbar that fits the standard Mégane, like from the sport or something ?

Maybe a strutbar ?

Open for suggestions but im not spending alot of money on buying a chassikit with coilovers and so on.
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Postby TheFinn » Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:03 pm

I haven't seen a strutbrace for the Mégane II, but Reichhard Motorsport in Germany sell an uprated front antiroll bar, said to be ~30% stiffer than the standard Mégane item.

There's only a drawing taken from Dialogys showing the part, so I'm guessing it must be a genuine Renault Sport item? Might be the one originally fitted to RS Trophys as they list it for all Méganes incl. RS Turbo, except RS Turbos with the Sport (=Trophy?) chassis option.

Can be found at www.reichhard-motorsport.com, follow the path "Kategorien->Renault->Tuning-Shop->Megane 2->Fahrwerk->Querstabilisator". The cost is €225 + P&P.

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Postby cactusbob » Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:10 pm

Get some Eibach springs all round, they'll lower you by about 30mm but the handling difference will be amazing. Ony cost you about £120 + fitting
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Postby Steel » Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:01 am

cactusbob wrote:Get some Eibach springs all round, they'll lower you by about 30mm but the handling difference will be amazing. Ony cost you about £120 + fitting


I already have H&R lowering kit 30mm .....
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Postby Oliver » Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:09 am

TheFinn wrote:I haven't seen a strutbrace for the Mégane II, but Reichhard Motorsport in Germany sell an uprated front antiroll bar, said to be ~30% stiffer than the standard Mégane item.



That´s simply the antirollbar of the Megane Scénic (+2mm), I have it in my Megane. But without making your rear hand stiffer you will get more understeer....
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Postby Steel » Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:07 pm

Oliver wrote:
TheFinn wrote:I haven't seen a strutbrace for the Mégane II, but Reichhard Motorsport in Germany sell an uprated front antiroll bar, said to be ~30% stiffer than the standard Mégane item.



That´s simply the antirollbar of the Megane Scénic (+2mm), I have it in my Megane. But without making your rear hand stiffer you will get more understeer....


I have seen a rear antirollbar in Dialogys but cant sort out on witch model it fits.

Edit: Now i know ! it´s from the Mégane Sport DCI.
Does anybody know if this will fit a standard megane ?
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Postby Oliver » Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:06 pm

Steel wrote:
I have seen a rear antirollbar in Dialogys but cant sort out on witch model it fits.

Edit: Now i know ! it´s from the Mégane Sport DCI.
Does anybody know if this will fit a standard megane ?


Can you give me the model-code BM?? of the Mégane Sport DCI??? Thanks!
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Postby Steel » Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:52 pm

Oliver wrote:
Steel wrote:
I have seen a rear antirollbar in Dialogys but cant sort out on witch model it fits.

Edit: Now i know ! it´s from the Mégane Sport DCI.
Does anybody know if this will fit a standard megane ?


Can you give me the model-code BM?? of the Mégane Sport DCI??? Thanks!


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Postby Oliver » Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:36 am

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Postby Steel » Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:03 am

I have just recieved the front antirollbar for Mégane sport with cuppack.
But it´s 1mm thinner than the original one.

Anybody know if it´s a diffrent material that is used is these bars ?!
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Postby TheFinn » Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:09 pm

It's the same material, but thinner to improve initial turn-in and reduce understeer. Also the front coils and dampers in the Cup chassis are different from the standard RS to compensate for the thinner anti-roll bar. The suspension's a complex package where everything has an effect on everything.

Like Oliver already mentioned: If your front gets stiffer compared to the rear, you get understeer. Stiffen up the rear more than the front, and you get oversteer.

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Postby Steel » Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:29 am

TheFinn wrote:It's the same material, but thinner to improve initial turn-in and reduce understeer. Also the front coils and dampers in the Cup chassis are different from the standard RS to compensate for the thinner anti-roll bar. The suspension's a complex package where everything has an effect on everything.

Like Oliver already mentioned: If your front gets stiffer compared to the rear, you get understeer. Stiffen up the rear more than the front, and you get oversteer.


I kind of suspected that :(

Thanks for the info TheFinn :!:
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Postby Oliver » Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:23 pm

Steel wrote:
TheFinn wrote:It's the same material, but thinner to improve initial turn-in and reduce understeer. Also the front coils and dampers in the Cup chassis are different from the standard RS to compensate for the thinner anti-roll bar. The suspension's a complex package where everything has an effect on everything.

Like Oliver already mentioned: If your front gets stiffer compared to the rear, you get understeer. Stiffen up the rear more than the front, and you get oversteer.


I kind of suspected that :(

Thanks for the info TheFinn :!:


I got now the part-numbers for the RS DCi rear anti-roll bar:

anti roll bar: 82 00 545 225
middle rubber mount: 77 01 063 891
middle bracket: 77 01 063 888
nut: 77 03 034 262
screw (2x): 77 01 063 894

But I have no prices... :(
And I don´t know if it will simple fit to the smaller models...but would be a good combination with the thicker Scenic front anti-rollbar, even I have already stiffer rear springs...
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Postby R55VYS » Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:57 pm

Buy some sports dampers if you've only got springs on, that would make a big difference.

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Postby Oliver » Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:23 am

R55VYS wrote:Buy some sports dampers if you've only got springs on, that would make a big difference.


O.K. boy, I have these progressive springs only at rear in mine (front is still OEM):

https://www.mad-suspension.co.uk/progressive.htm

They don´t lower (I think they lift abaout 10mm) but they are harder...so do you really think sport dampers are a good choice? I have a nearly new pair of dampers of a ScenicII, I will try them by time.
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