Help Help Help! Please? Anyone? Just A Little Help!
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:37 pm
Ok, long time not been on here. have a little Renault problem that is giving me big hassle!
Long story short;
I got a Renault Espace not long ago and it had the 2.0, 16v engine.
Previous owner, a total dick, hadn't serviced it in 2 years, so the engine sounded like a Massey Ferguson on full revs ploughing a particularly difficult field.
Anyway, I knew it wouldn't last long so I decided to....errrmmm.....change it....a bit
I got a whole Renault Laguna from 1998 that was driving and was well looked after.
The Laguna?
A 3.0 litre, 24v, V6
So I stripped everything I thought I'd need and took a whole day and a half removing both engines and all the gear.
Trouble is, those devious Froggies decided it would be fun to do it arse for tit
I had to change the mounts (as you'd expect), then the hubs because the shafts on the Espace have the ABS pick up rings on the shafts, where the Laguna has them in the bearings, then I had to change the ABS plugs to sockets because the Laguna is back to front, then I had to make up an exhaust because the......you get the picture
Anyway, it all went together and looks the tits
I even made side exits for the exhaust and they do look secksey
However, and here is the main problem, I cannot for the life of me obtain a wiring diagram for the V6 engine
All I need is a diagram in simpleton language that says; Wire from Throttle Position Sensor goes to black plug, pin 4 (or such like).
I have 39 wires and only know where 4 of them go
THEN...there is the Espace!
I cannot obtain a wiring diagram that tells me where the wires from the Laguna engine go onto that!
Simply put, the Espace has 5 plugs, one of which is not in use.
The ones in use are White, Grey, Blue & Black
The Laguna has 4 plugs, White, Grey, Blue & red.
Both vehicles have different wires with different colours going to different pins on each plug
However, on each loom (the loom from the Laguna I refer to is the engine wiring harness), the white plugs (the Espace has a socket.....and the Laguna has a socket.....not a plug and socket like you'd expect!!!!) contain the heavy duty (up to 60 amp) wires such as the continuous 12v feed to whatever needs a continous 12v feed (not the alternator), starter motor solenoid activation and so on. There are 6 of these wires.
I even paid to go on to Renault Info Tech, but it didn't have what I needed, only the wiring diag for the ECU and thats already wired and ready to rock in as much as it's plugged into the ECU.
So I have 2 sockets with a bunch of wires and no idea where to put them to make it go
My question?
I need someone with knowlege of the 1998 V6 lump that can say with conviction that the 39 wires are thus.......
And possibly someone with intimate knowlege of the 2002 (last of the Mk3)Espace that can say "Ah yes, the white plug comes from the ignition key start, ign on, fuel pump"....etc.....
Please help.
I'll even make donations to a beer fund
Thanks.
Andi
Long story short;
I got a Renault Espace not long ago and it had the 2.0, 16v engine.
Previous owner, a total dick, hadn't serviced it in 2 years, so the engine sounded like a Massey Ferguson on full revs ploughing a particularly difficult field.
Anyway, I knew it wouldn't last long so I decided to....errrmmm.....change it....a bit
I got a whole Renault Laguna from 1998 that was driving and was well looked after.
The Laguna?
A 3.0 litre, 24v, V6
So I stripped everything I thought I'd need and took a whole day and a half removing both engines and all the gear.
Trouble is, those devious Froggies decided it would be fun to do it arse for tit
I had to change the mounts (as you'd expect), then the hubs because the shafts on the Espace have the ABS pick up rings on the shafts, where the Laguna has them in the bearings, then I had to change the ABS plugs to sockets because the Laguna is back to front, then I had to make up an exhaust because the......you get the picture
Anyway, it all went together and looks the tits
I even made side exits for the exhaust and they do look secksey
However, and here is the main problem, I cannot for the life of me obtain a wiring diagram for the V6 engine
All I need is a diagram in simpleton language that says; Wire from Throttle Position Sensor goes to black plug, pin 4 (or such like).
I have 39 wires and only know where 4 of them go
THEN...there is the Espace!
I cannot obtain a wiring diagram that tells me where the wires from the Laguna engine go onto that!
Simply put, the Espace has 5 plugs, one of which is not in use.
The ones in use are White, Grey, Blue & Black
The Laguna has 4 plugs, White, Grey, Blue & red.
Both vehicles have different wires with different colours going to different pins on each plug
However, on each loom (the loom from the Laguna I refer to is the engine wiring harness), the white plugs (the Espace has a socket.....and the Laguna has a socket.....not a plug and socket like you'd expect!!!!) contain the heavy duty (up to 60 amp) wires such as the continuous 12v feed to whatever needs a continous 12v feed (not the alternator), starter motor solenoid activation and so on. There are 6 of these wires.
I even paid to go on to Renault Info Tech, but it didn't have what I needed, only the wiring diag for the ECU and thats already wired and ready to rock in as much as it's plugged into the ECU.
So I have 2 sockets with a bunch of wires and no idea where to put them to make it go
My question?
I need someone with knowlege of the 1998 V6 lump that can say with conviction that the 39 wires are thus.......
And possibly someone with intimate knowlege of the 2002 (last of the Mk3)Espace that can say "Ah yes, the white plug comes from the ignition key start, ign on, fuel pump"....etc.....
Please help.
I'll even make donations to a beer fund
Thanks.
Andi